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Is a game-changing coalition forming between the City of Asheville, New Belgium, and leaders of several neighborhood organizations? After attending this morning’s meeting, the latest in a series, my answer is yes.

Hot on the heels of last night’s marathon four-hour Planning & Zoning Commission meeting discussing New Belgium’s site plan for its Craven Street facility, elected leaders of neighborhood and business organizations gathered in the River Arts District for even more discussion with City of Asheville officials and New Belgium management.

The meeting was an open discussion of New Belgium concerns including traffic impact, alternate delivery routes, and plans for deconstruction of structures on the Asheville site.

In attendance were New Belgium officials including new General Manager Jay Richardson, City of Asheville officials, and elected representatives from an acronym stew of local organizations including Asheville on Bikes, the East West Asheville Neighborhood Association (EWANA), the River Arts District Business Association (RADBA), the West Asheville Business Association, (WABA) the West End/Clingman Avenue neighborhood (WECAN), River Arts District Association (RADA), and business leaders including Tim Schaller of the Wedge.

Here’s the highlights:

* A game-changing coalition is forming between the City of Asheville, New Belgium, and leaders of the neighborhood organizations listed above

New Belgium’s reputation as a company that listens may not be exaggerated. Neighborhood concerns about truck traffic seem to be helping guide and change how the new facility will receive truck deliveries, a major concern of area residents who don’t want to see already congested Haywood Road, the primary delivery route, forced to deal with more truck traffic than it can handle.

But neighborhood leaders, business leaders, City of Asheville officials and New Belgium upper management are working together, listening and correcting New Belgium’s course as the Craven Street facility moves from plans to reality. I watched it happen.

The big impediment to using Riverside Drive as an alternate delivery route is the old train trestle (the “Festus Bridge”) that crosses Riverside Drive near its intersection with Craven Street. The trestle allows a clearance of 13 feet, six inches below the DOT-established legal requirement for bridges (and the height of modern trucks).

Norfolk Southern has a spur line that runs around the trestle, and a resident-generated idea to either renovate the bridge or partner with the railroad for right-of-way met with resistance from the railroad.

Now the  proposal  to get around the trestle, West Asheville resident Jonathan Wainscott‘s bypass idea, is back on the table, only modified.

City officials shot it down a couple weeks ago. But in an interesting reversal, there’s talk even from City of Asheville Director of Public Works Cathy Ball about exploring either altering the trestle bridge, or the land under and around it, to allow passage of delivery vehicles.

Currently, the bridge only allows passage of trucks under 13 feet, several inches under the height of a modern truck.

Allowing taller trucks to pass under the trestle bridge puts Riverside Drive back on the table as a viable delivery route, one that many West Asheville residents support as being less harmful to neighborhood health, since Riverside is more industrialized than Haywood Road.

“We would support investigating this option,” said Ball at the meeting.

“We want to support that option with you as well,” said Edwin Fowler, a New Belgium architectural and civil engineer helping manage the project.

Want to have your voice heard? If you’re a West Asheville or RAD resident or business owner, explore one of the organizations listed above, and express any concerns with group leadership.

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* A new acronym to look out for: RADTIP (River Arts District Transportation Improvement Plan)

“RADTIP” was bandied about at Wednesday night’s Planning and Zoning meeting as well as Thursday’s meeting. The plan will address much-needed improvements to infrastructure along Riverside Drive and Lyman Street. It focuses on a section south of the Craven Street brewery location, but fits in with development plans there.

The RADTIP is a $15 million road improvement project that is currently still in planning stages. Any work on the project likely won’t begin for another three to five years.

But if you’re into multimodal, the arrival of NBB could still be the best thing that ever happened to Asheville, kickstarting a more bike- and pedestrian-friendly future in West Asheville. Asheville on Bikes’ Michael Sule hopes the Craven Street work, the RADTIP project and the informal coalition forming between famously bike-friendly New Belgium, city officials and neighborhood leaders will help pressure the N.C. DOT to do more to make Haywood Road a more pedestrian- and bike-friendly thoroughfare.

“This is a golden opportunity to start advocating,” said Sule at the Thursday meeting.

* A new catchphrase: “truck diversification plan”

Discussion at the Thursday meeting seemed to indicate that since the impact of Haywood Road delivery traffic could be reduced by spreading traffic along multiple routes, New Belgium and the City of Asheville now both support exploring shared delivery traffic among multiple streets in West Asheville and the RAD.

Other delivery-route possibilities other than Haywood and Riverside include Clingman Avenue and Roberts Street in the RAD.

But diversification is not a perfect solution. Some residents see spreading truck traffic around as simply spreading around noise and traffic problems. Still others think keeping most traffic on Haywood will be good for future business growth there.

* Look for residents to get it in writing

EWANA leader Joshua Martin asked for more than just philosophical agreement (“How can we get to more than ‘Trust us’?”), and it looks like he’s going to get it. At the next meeting, planned for later this month, the group will seek to solidify a plan all parties will publicly support.

Indications are that the group will create a document that states its goals as an informal coalition.

* Deconstruction at the Craven Street site starts this month: Expect some noise and trucks

Fowler closed the meeting with information about tear-down, saying deconstruction of existing buildings at the Craven Street site starts late this month/early February.

There will be noise and more trucks, but “not a huge volume of trucks,” according to Fowler. Deconstruction will take about three months, and will then transition into site work in spring, including clean-up of contaminated soil and bringing in fresh soil.

Filling the site will produce a lot of truck traffic, according to Fowler.

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Currently these meetings are closed to the public, but members of invited organizations (see above) can share concerns with their organization’s elected leaders. Meeting notes are publicly available on the New Belgium site here.

– Ashvegas reporter Jason Sandford contributed to this report

17 Comments

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  2. I understand the need for trucks for the finished product, but could they receive delivery of raw materials by rail? How much would a rail spur to the factory cost? How much of an impact would that have on the number of trucks?

    • Since it would require building a brand new bridge across the river, I’m guessing that a rail spur to the factory would be prohibitively expensive.

  3. Nope. At B&B Pharmacy and the Riverlink Bridge.

    Another telling detail (and I’ve sat at windows on Haywood some too, you know): Virtually no trucks use Haywood nights or weekends right now, while New Belgium’s setup will be 24/7. So if you only count after-hours trucks (and if I liked to walk from the Admiral to WALK, I would,) the ramp-up is more like a zillion percent.

    • Walking across Haywood is basically taking your life in your hands anyways it seems. People have zero interest in recognizing the crosswalks that exist.

      I’m not arguing that increased truck traffic is a bad thing, just that the numbers I have heard about existing traffic are laughably low.

      True, I’m not usually down there “after hours.”

  4. I hear a lot about the traffic numbers seeming low. Those are what we have, both from a phone survey of Haywood businesses and from the street-tube results. I would challenge anyone with doubts and a few minutes on their hands to try their own count, though!

    • I know it’s completely anecdotal, but I can sit at my store window on Haywood just east of the 240 interchange and watch at least 8-10 trucks go by in 15 minutes. Perhaps the survey was done past the Builder’s Supply?

  5. Here is a link to the Haywood St study recently completed by AVL’s Bike / Ped Task Force. With investment in multi-modal infrastructure, Haywood Rd corridor will vastly improve. All modes can work together if the infrastructure is designed to accommodate them. We can build it. http://www.kostelecplanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2011_HaywoodSafetyAudit_FinalLowRes2.pdf

  6. Could they build up a gentle, trucker-friendly, grade on River Rd. to simply drive over Festus Bridge? Eliminating the deadly passage altogether and making a “mole hill” out of this “mountain” of an issue.

  7. I’d love to hear real numbers on Haywood Rd. trucks. I have heard someone say that ten trucks a day go down Haywood towards the river (an absolute joke, easily at least 10 an hour if not much much more) and I heard someone say that New Belgium will mean an additional 20 trucks a day (depending on spread, about 2 an hour).

    Does anyone have good data on the current truck traffice on Haywood Rd at 240 and the proposed increase of truck traffic?

    Thanks!

    • Eric, city and New Belgium officials say 12 trucks a day when the brewery opens in 2015. That number will go as high as 52 trucks a day by 2022, when the brewery gets up to full capacity, those officials say. Trucks will deliver grain, cardboard and glass, and haul off used grain and newly made beer.

      • 52 trucks arriving, and the same 52 trucks leaving, for a total of 104 truck trips.

      • Much appreciated Jason. So, 53 trucks a day from 8-6 would be about… 5 an hour? I guess I just don’t see the outrage. I think easily 20 trucks an hour go by now.

        What if we just enforced the crosswalks a bit better and painted permanent bike lanes that were visible and recognizable? Wouldn’t everyone win?

        • Eric,

          We have the numbers from the city’s 72-hour survey using road tubes. Only 60 long body vehicles use Haywood per day, with 32 of those being the two city buses on their routes (16 hours times 2 buses = 32.) Once you factor out those and school buses, you get about 14 “trucks” using the survey definition on an average day.

          • I work right near Haywood and 240 and I can tell you those numbers are wildly low. I watch trucks go by at least 10-12 times an hour, possibly much, much more. The Builder’s Supply has a constant flow of large vehicles.

            I’d love to see actual accurate numbers.

        • Also, New Belgium’s schedule will be 24-hour, but you’re about right. Counting inbound and outbound trips, there’ll be 4-6 trucks along the route per hour.

        • Bike lanes aren’t part of AVL Bicycle Master Plan, but sharerow markers are. Besides bicycle improvements, there are plenty of pedestrian that require more than paint. It’s a big job & it’s NCDOT’s responsibility to address it. http://www.kostelecplanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2011_HaywoodSafetyAudit_FinalLowRes2.pdf

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